Dangerous Incorporated
12-17-2006, 09:58 PM
Bad News Brown Shoots
James Guttman begins the show by talking about today’s interview with Bad News Brown. James says that as a kid he was scared to death of Brown. Whether you knew him as Bad News Brown or Bad News Allen, you knew his crazy eyes. Guttman says he has wanted Bad News on for a long time, because his career was confusing. He was over with the fans, yet never headlined a PPV or got a major program. However, he also never got buried - even on the way out. JG says he asked Brown about that in his unedited interview on ClubWWI.com.
Guttman reminds listeners that all the unedited interviews are up on ClubWWI.com. He says that the Bad News interview was a full 36 minutes and is available there. After that, James mentions how the week after next will be Radio Free Insanity’s Year End Special. It will feature the Top Five Moments of Insanity as voted by the readers of WorldWrestlingInsanity.com. JG encourages listeners to head to the Insanity Message Boards and register their votes for the five most insane moments of 2006. He also reminds listeners that voting has started for the World Wrestling Insanity Year End Awards too. Guttman urges listeners to go to the Insanity Year End section on the main page of the site and register their votes for Wrestler of the Year, Match of the Year, Worst Storyline of the Year, and more.
James then switches subjects to Pay Per Views. He says that this week marks another bout in our constant PPVs. Guttman says that the irony is that on Tuesday, when he taped Dr. Tom Prichard’s audio for ClubWWI.com, Tom asked if there was a PPV on Sunday. JG said, “No.” It wasn’t until later on that he remembered Armageddon and couldn’t believe it. Guttman says that if someone who runs a wrestling website can barely keep up with all the pay shows on schedule, how can a casual fan? He also mentions that with the quality of pay shows going down, the number offered keeps going up. James says that when the pay-per-views are so close together, it’s hard to not let a bad one affect your thoughts on ordering future ones…especially when those “future ones” are a week later.
After that, Guttman does the weekly reader-voted Moment of Insanity and then sends us over to part two for the interview with Bad News Brown.
Part Two of Radio Free Insanity begins with “Bad Leroy Brown“ by Jim Croce. James mentions that it’s not “Bad News Brown” but close enough. He says the song always reminded him of Bad News Brown anyway.
James says that the full, uncut interview with Brown lasted for 36 minutes and is available right now on ClubWWI.com. JG says that besides what you’ll hear on the show today, Bad News also talks about the promise Vince McMahon broke to him, how “No Holds Barred: The Movie” was supposed to play a part in Brown’s career, why his LJN action figure never came out, today’s wrestling product, the high mortality rate of young wrestlers today, the storyline that his wife hated, how that played a part in his WWF departure, his matches against Hulk Hogan, thoughts on Hogan, being recognized by fans, and much more. With that, Guttman cues up the interview.
JG welcomes Bad News Brown to the show. Brown thanks him and Guttman jumps right in. He says he grew up in New York and saw Bad News as a kid. James mentions that Bad News was Bad News long before WWF. He was Bad News Allen before that. He asks Allen how that gimmick came about. Brown says that he started in New Japan and Antonio Inoki decided to make him a heel. He thought Allen had good facials. They tried to think of a name and finally chose “Bad News,” which was a nickname he had from judo.
James asks about his judo accomplishments and Bad News says he did it for 14 years. He won an Olympic bronze medal and two gold medals in the Pan-American games. Guttman says it must have been hard to transition from the hard-hitting world of judo to professional wrestling. Bad News says it was tough and that the people were different too. JG brings up a quote from when Scott Steiner was on the show and said that fans would be shocked to see how some of the “tough guy” wrestlers were backstage. Brown says that’s true. He mentions that the nicest people he ever met were the heels, while most “baby faces behind the scenes were real assholes.”
Guttman brings up WrestleMania IV and the battle royal. Bad News Brown was the catalyst for turning Bret Hart into a good guy by destroying his trophy. He asks Allen about the angle. Bad News says that he had worked with Bret in Canada and was used to him. He knew Hart was “a prima donna and a crybaby,” but figured they could make money. Allen was there for his “bankbook” but Bret was there for his ego. Brown says that one day he told him:“Look, man. You’re not the World Champ. You’re the promoter’s champ, OK? So just be happy that you’re making money.”
Bad News says he was never satisfied with that, though. Bret had to be number one. Brown says he didn’t care about any of that. He says they could let Hart beat him every night, as long as they paid him.
JG says he’s always been intrigued by that aspect of the business - wrestlers who can’t walk away from their gimmicks when the show is over. Bad News tells a story about how one time Bret Hart had pointed to Shawn Michaels and said, “Outside the ring, he’s (Michael) Hickenbottom, but Bret Hart is Bret “The Hitman” Hart 24 hours a day.” Brown says that some guys don’t realize that they’re playing part. James says that some people must be missing something and use wrestling to fill a need in their life. Bad News figures some people don’t work hard. Someone, like Vince McMahon, makes them a corporate champion and then they believe their own “B.S.”
Guttman asks Brown what wrestlers he enjoyed hanging out with in WWF when he was there. He names Rick Ride, Slick, Haku, and Barbarian. He mentions liking Rick Rude the most and how he traveled with him for a while.
Guttman then mentions the infamous match between Bad News and Roddy Piper at WrestleMania VI where Piper painted himself half black. James says it was racist in a confusing way. Brown says he had worked with Piper in the past. He knew where Roddy was coming from:
“That’s his mindset. The guy’s a total bigot. I figured he wanted to do it, so go ahead and do it. I figured some of the brothers would get a hold of him and beat the crap out of him.”
Brown went on to say that when Dusty Rhodes debuted his manager, Vince McMahon called her “Sapphire.” Bad News thought it was an insult to his people. He asked Vince why he’d want to insult his fans when their money was as good as anyone else’s. That’s when he changed her name to “Sweet Sapphire.” Brown says that when the Piper angle came up, he said they could do it. That way the people can see what Vince and Roddy “were really about.”
James brings up how wrestlers today like to do highspots for the sake of highspots. Bad News says that he always tried to wrestle in a way that he would if he was in a street fight. He figures that no one would do any triple flips in a street fight. JG says that they could, but they’d be flipping off the pavement.
Guttman brings up how fans look back that the 80s and the flashy characters, but the matches made more sense then. Bad News says that the art of good guy vs. bad guy is gone and mentions a match he had with Hulk Hogan at Nassau Coliseum. When he came out, the people went crazy. He didn’t even have to do anything. You don’t see that today because wrestlers go from good to bad too often. Plus, there’s no kayfabe or psychology. It’s all about how many moves you can do.
James asks about the constant turning. He mentions how Lex Luger was criticized for turning too often in the 80s. Now it’s happening all the time. Also, wrestlers are having the same feuds over and over again. Bad News says that if a person comes in as a heel, he should be a heel for his whole run. If he works another territory, he can switch. Yet when you’re in a program, you should stay in you character. Brown also says that titles mean nothing today and looks at when Vince McMahon put it on himself as the day it lost its luster.
Guttman brings up World Wrestling Insanity: The Book and how he talked about the changes in the characters of all the McMahons. He says that without kayfabe, you can do silly things like make stars super-human even though they debuted as weak characters. Bad News says the heel should come in and beat everyone until people are clamoring to see him fight the champion. Today, though, everyone flips back and forth too often to do that.
Brown says that while Vince McMahon is a marketing genius but has done “more harm than good” for the business. He says that Vince has “some sick ideas.”
Source: Gerweck
Yeah I remember Steph saying that Vince wanted to be Stephs kid's dad. Deffo a sick man. Not that we didnt already know that!
James Guttman begins the show by talking about today’s interview with Bad News Brown. James says that as a kid he was scared to death of Brown. Whether you knew him as Bad News Brown or Bad News Allen, you knew his crazy eyes. Guttman says he has wanted Bad News on for a long time, because his career was confusing. He was over with the fans, yet never headlined a PPV or got a major program. However, he also never got buried - even on the way out. JG says he asked Brown about that in his unedited interview on ClubWWI.com.
Guttman reminds listeners that all the unedited interviews are up on ClubWWI.com. He says that the Bad News interview was a full 36 minutes and is available there. After that, James mentions how the week after next will be Radio Free Insanity’s Year End Special. It will feature the Top Five Moments of Insanity as voted by the readers of WorldWrestlingInsanity.com. JG encourages listeners to head to the Insanity Message Boards and register their votes for the five most insane moments of 2006. He also reminds listeners that voting has started for the World Wrestling Insanity Year End Awards too. Guttman urges listeners to go to the Insanity Year End section on the main page of the site and register their votes for Wrestler of the Year, Match of the Year, Worst Storyline of the Year, and more.
James then switches subjects to Pay Per Views. He says that this week marks another bout in our constant PPVs. Guttman says that the irony is that on Tuesday, when he taped Dr. Tom Prichard’s audio for ClubWWI.com, Tom asked if there was a PPV on Sunday. JG said, “No.” It wasn’t until later on that he remembered Armageddon and couldn’t believe it. Guttman says that if someone who runs a wrestling website can barely keep up with all the pay shows on schedule, how can a casual fan? He also mentions that with the quality of pay shows going down, the number offered keeps going up. James says that when the pay-per-views are so close together, it’s hard to not let a bad one affect your thoughts on ordering future ones…especially when those “future ones” are a week later.
After that, Guttman does the weekly reader-voted Moment of Insanity and then sends us over to part two for the interview with Bad News Brown.
Part Two of Radio Free Insanity begins with “Bad Leroy Brown“ by Jim Croce. James mentions that it’s not “Bad News Brown” but close enough. He says the song always reminded him of Bad News Brown anyway.
James says that the full, uncut interview with Brown lasted for 36 minutes and is available right now on ClubWWI.com. JG says that besides what you’ll hear on the show today, Bad News also talks about the promise Vince McMahon broke to him, how “No Holds Barred: The Movie” was supposed to play a part in Brown’s career, why his LJN action figure never came out, today’s wrestling product, the high mortality rate of young wrestlers today, the storyline that his wife hated, how that played a part in his WWF departure, his matches against Hulk Hogan, thoughts on Hogan, being recognized by fans, and much more. With that, Guttman cues up the interview.
JG welcomes Bad News Brown to the show. Brown thanks him and Guttman jumps right in. He says he grew up in New York and saw Bad News as a kid. James mentions that Bad News was Bad News long before WWF. He was Bad News Allen before that. He asks Allen how that gimmick came about. Brown says that he started in New Japan and Antonio Inoki decided to make him a heel. He thought Allen had good facials. They tried to think of a name and finally chose “Bad News,” which was a nickname he had from judo.
James asks about his judo accomplishments and Bad News says he did it for 14 years. He won an Olympic bronze medal and two gold medals in the Pan-American games. Guttman says it must have been hard to transition from the hard-hitting world of judo to professional wrestling. Bad News says it was tough and that the people were different too. JG brings up a quote from when Scott Steiner was on the show and said that fans would be shocked to see how some of the “tough guy” wrestlers were backstage. Brown says that’s true. He mentions that the nicest people he ever met were the heels, while most “baby faces behind the scenes were real assholes.”
Guttman brings up WrestleMania IV and the battle royal. Bad News Brown was the catalyst for turning Bret Hart into a good guy by destroying his trophy. He asks Allen about the angle. Bad News says that he had worked with Bret in Canada and was used to him. He knew Hart was “a prima donna and a crybaby,” but figured they could make money. Allen was there for his “bankbook” but Bret was there for his ego. Brown says that one day he told him:“Look, man. You’re not the World Champ. You’re the promoter’s champ, OK? So just be happy that you’re making money.”
Bad News says he was never satisfied with that, though. Bret had to be number one. Brown says he didn’t care about any of that. He says they could let Hart beat him every night, as long as they paid him.
JG says he’s always been intrigued by that aspect of the business - wrestlers who can’t walk away from their gimmicks when the show is over. Bad News tells a story about how one time Bret Hart had pointed to Shawn Michaels and said, “Outside the ring, he’s (Michael) Hickenbottom, but Bret Hart is Bret “The Hitman” Hart 24 hours a day.” Brown says that some guys don’t realize that they’re playing part. James says that some people must be missing something and use wrestling to fill a need in their life. Bad News figures some people don’t work hard. Someone, like Vince McMahon, makes them a corporate champion and then they believe their own “B.S.”
Guttman asks Brown what wrestlers he enjoyed hanging out with in WWF when he was there. He names Rick Ride, Slick, Haku, and Barbarian. He mentions liking Rick Rude the most and how he traveled with him for a while.
Guttman then mentions the infamous match between Bad News and Roddy Piper at WrestleMania VI where Piper painted himself half black. James says it was racist in a confusing way. Brown says he had worked with Piper in the past. He knew where Roddy was coming from:
“That’s his mindset. The guy’s a total bigot. I figured he wanted to do it, so go ahead and do it. I figured some of the brothers would get a hold of him and beat the crap out of him.”
Brown went on to say that when Dusty Rhodes debuted his manager, Vince McMahon called her “Sapphire.” Bad News thought it was an insult to his people. He asked Vince why he’d want to insult his fans when their money was as good as anyone else’s. That’s when he changed her name to “Sweet Sapphire.” Brown says that when the Piper angle came up, he said they could do it. That way the people can see what Vince and Roddy “were really about.”
James brings up how wrestlers today like to do highspots for the sake of highspots. Bad News says that he always tried to wrestle in a way that he would if he was in a street fight. He figures that no one would do any triple flips in a street fight. JG says that they could, but they’d be flipping off the pavement.
Guttman brings up how fans look back that the 80s and the flashy characters, but the matches made more sense then. Bad News says that the art of good guy vs. bad guy is gone and mentions a match he had with Hulk Hogan at Nassau Coliseum. When he came out, the people went crazy. He didn’t even have to do anything. You don’t see that today because wrestlers go from good to bad too often. Plus, there’s no kayfabe or psychology. It’s all about how many moves you can do.
James asks about the constant turning. He mentions how Lex Luger was criticized for turning too often in the 80s. Now it’s happening all the time. Also, wrestlers are having the same feuds over and over again. Bad News says that if a person comes in as a heel, he should be a heel for his whole run. If he works another territory, he can switch. Yet when you’re in a program, you should stay in you character. Brown also says that titles mean nothing today and looks at when Vince McMahon put it on himself as the day it lost its luster.
Guttman brings up World Wrestling Insanity: The Book and how he talked about the changes in the characters of all the McMahons. He says that without kayfabe, you can do silly things like make stars super-human even though they debuted as weak characters. Bad News says the heel should come in and beat everyone until people are clamoring to see him fight the champion. Today, though, everyone flips back and forth too often to do that.
Brown says that while Vince McMahon is a marketing genius but has done “more harm than good” for the business. He says that Vince has “some sick ideas.”
Source: Gerweck
Yeah I remember Steph saying that Vince wanted to be Stephs kid's dad. Deffo a sick man. Not that we didnt already know that!